Meghan Markle Turned to Beyoncé’s Mom for Advice on Working With Lilibet

Meghan Markle’s daughter Lilibet will turn four tomorrow, but her mother is already dreaming about Lili’s career and the possibility of them being in business together.

The Duchess of Sussex interviewed Beyoncé’s mother, Tina Knowles, on her podcast Confessions of a Female Founder and asked Knowles for her advice on working with your children.

Meghan specifically asked Knowles about Beyoncé’s hair care line, Cécred, which Knowles and Beyoncé work on together. (Knowles is a beautician and owned a Houston salon when Beyoncé was growing up.) “I mean, I wonder if one day I’ll be in business with Lili and we’ll be building something...” she began, before asking Knowles, “What advice do you have for people really digging into business together in that way, especially as mother and daughter?”

Knowles had a thoughtful answer, saying, “There are difficulties sometimes because when you’re dealing with your child or they’re dealing with their mother. You have disagreements and you have to—I’m the one to always cave. I’ve been like that since I was young. If my kids are mad at me, I can’t take it. So, I’ll cave, I’ll apologize. Not that they ran over me because they were really good kids, but even as adults, if we have a disagreement or whatever, I’m the one to call because I don’t want to waste that time, and I don’t ever want to not be close to my kids. It’s just my priority.”

On working with Beyoncé, Knowles said that she respects her daughter’s judgment. “We have disagreements about things, but it’s her business,” she said. “I’m helping with the business because I just want to leave this earth knowing that she is, other than entertainment, is going to be okay. That’s a big part of it for me. But overall, we get along really, really well.”

You can listen to the full episode here.